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"It's clear to me that the knowledge about guns here is vast. I have a question to pose, if you had to pick 3 guns for the "panic room" of the house 1 handgun, 1 rifle, 1 shotgun for both the wife and the husband what would they be? Keep in mind that there use would be in close quarters and could involve many assailants."
I think it boils down to get whatever you are comfortable with and are likely to PRACTICE with. If you buy the "Gorilla Stopper" and load it with the hottest loads you can find sure it'll stop anything but you probably aren't going to want to practice with it. You'll, be sore, have ringing ears and be broke from expensive ammo. This is especially true if you're not accustomed to firing a gun.
You also may have to factor in another persons ability to handle the gun if your spouse will also be relying on it for protection.
As far as my choice in your scenario I don't see what use the rifle would be, at as you said "close quarters" Shotguns are nice but I think I could fire accurately, faster with my handgun. But that's just me and it's what I am comfortable handling, you might feel different. I have 6 handguns and if forced I would rely on the two 9mm Glock 19's for which I have eight 15 round magazines. Not the most powerful handgun round ever invented but it's easy to shoot rapidly and accurately and I know it will do the job if I do. One of these Glocks was my wife's when she was a police officer so she knows the gun very well also.
If I really wanted the shotgun I like the Winchester Defender model 1300 with an 18" barrel. My brother has one, it holds 8 shells is easy to pump and fire rapidly and you can get a variety of stocks/grips and tactical accesories for little $$$$. He's had it for 15 years without a problem. I think it was around $275.
Come to think of it he has offered it to me in the past...I may just swipe it from him 
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Like I said it's really what YOU feel best with. I have carried handgun most waking hours of the day for years so to me it's much more natural than a shotgun.
For others it may be just the opposite. With the current gun laws I think most people have the majority of their gun handling experience with hunting rifles and shotguns. With the exception of law enforcement not too many carry permits or even pistol permits are issued here in the NY. It may be slightly easier in other parts of the country. The numbers of rifles/shotguns must far outnumber the number of pistols(legal ones that is  ). They rake you over the coals in order to get a pistol permit.
I do like the shotgun don't get me wrong, but to me it's sort of a novelty to shoot. It would take more time and ammo than I am willing to invest to get the same level of comfort I have with a handgun.
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Nothing particularly special about the Black Talon rounds. They are pre-scalopped copper jacketed large cavity hollow points. I believe Remington makes a similar round called the "Golden Sabre". The anti-gun Nazi's made a big deal out of the Black Talon rounds for political purposes and Winchester withdrew them from the market to avoid the negative publicity.
I have had the Golden Sabres for years they are designed by the same guy who had previously made the Black Talons for Winchester. Remington was smart not to give them a wild name, lest they fall prey to the anti-gun nuts like the BT did. Golden Sabre sounds less violent to them, sort of funny, huh?
They are rather expensive though and I have read that the Speer Gold Dots HPs are just as good so I have been using them.
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Yeah, well that stuff about great minds must be true
I really like these "best weapons for self defense" conversations. You get more answers, from a sling shot to a howitzer! I don't tink any of them are wrong or right as long as YOU'RE comfortable that you can defend yourself with it.
Let's face it a guy who can hit you with a 22 is better than a guy who misses with a 50 cal. For me I don't feel comfortable with anything less than my 10 +1 380 cal. or 5 shot 38. I shoot pretty darn well but not good enough for anything less, after all "a man's got to know his limitations"  Actually I choose the Glock 19 to carry daily, even though I am thin it really conceals very well and I like the extra margin for error.
On another note-
Still waiting for that JD 790, dealer said yesterday he was billed by JD so it should be there pronto. He said once they bill him they are on the way.
After all this wait and knowing myself I'll probably blast out all my tractor work in a week of 18 hour days and then start in on my neighbors property! My buddys starting construction on anew house so I am trying to talk him into saving a few $$ and letting me help him do the finishing landscaping. He's an electrician and does me favors all the time anyway so I figured why not plus the contractors don't seem to do much more than throw some seed around.
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Yes, I was cencored once, it was something minor like pain in the "pain in the a55" or "what the he77?" Something along those lines, and I used the substitute characters but I still got it censored and a message that "it's a family site".
No kidding, that's why I wrote it like that.
I have read your comments and wondered just what you were writing that you also got censored.
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Yes this is a very good site.
I had know idea what was going on with your posts. That is so funny it's pathetic you can't mention names they deem to be likely to generate debate? Isn't that what forums are for?????
Now you got me tempted look for my next chance to slip in Rush's name or my favorite talk show host Bob Grant
Since this is a gun thread I will mention that I tried a little gunsmithing of my own....needless to say the gun will be going to someone who KNOWS what they are doing. I had a problem with a 380 that was marking up the primers from a firing pin that was a tad too long (had it made by some other smith)so I figured "no problem" I'll just file it down a wee bit". Nope, now it gets light hits and goes off about every other time
It was a cheap Grendel model 10(out of business) that I got from one of the guys who worked for me. They have their problems so I had it sent out for a new firing pin after the original broke and no new pins were around. I now have found a guy online that supposedly turns these questionable guns into reliable guns with a workover that only is about $60.
I am going to give him a try. I actually liked that gun for summer clothing and for wearing with a suit. It is so small and the 10+1 380 in a 25-32 sized gun is hard to pass up for those days when I can't conceal anything else.
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"BTW, those drag marks on the primer are usually about a firing pins that is not retracting in a timely manner due to a dirty firing pin channel or a weak firing pin spring.'
I don't know what it was but that gun aint' getting tucked in the front of my waistband until it's fixed!
You are right, I would try to cycle the action while I peaked into the gun and the pin did seem to retract slowly, can't see if it every goes all the way back because the gun is closed by that point.
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